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Will 4 barrel intake manifolds from later year Hemi's fit on a 56? I don't have an interchange manual to look at. Other then the embossed numbers on the intake is there any major differences to be concerned about if I consider one off a Chrysler or Hemi other then a Desoto? I would like to change my 2 barrel to a 4 (I'm not at all sure why
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The only Intake Manifold that is an direct bolt on for any 1956 330 or 341 Cubed
De Soto Engine is one from an 1957 341 or 345 Cubed Engine.
2 bbls - 1956 330 and 1957 341
4 bbls- 1956 330 and 1957 341
2-4 bbls 1956 341 and 1957 345
There may be a couple of ya got the OEM A/C questions that may be asked, but
the question of what fits the engine is above.
If you are thinking of adding this part for a above 2,500 RPM Power Gain or a
MPG Gain it is not a very good cost to usage ratio ( cost of 4 bbl Air Cleaner -
cost of Air Cleaner To Carburator Gasket - cost of Carburator - cost of Carburator
to Intake Manifold - cost of Intake Manifold and cost of The Intake Manifold ).
It is now an "bragging rights" purchased and installed item.
Rodger & Gabby
COS
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Oh RATS AND MICE. Guess I'll be spending my $$$ on something more sensible.
Thanks for the reply but most of all saving me money.
You can bolt a '57 DeSoto intake onto a '56 DeSoto, but you can't use your stock '56 generator and PS mount. Oh, and good luck with the cooling system. '57 to '56 intake is a hot rod only exchange on a DeSoto. Direct exchange is one year only...56 to 56 DeSoto only.
Also, you will need to have your distributor rebuilt to match your "upgrade" (?) in carburetor.
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Thank You for completing the information.
Rodger & Gabby
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Lets face it. By any modern standard, these cars are not fast, and the fuel economy is pretty poor. I think possibly the best "bang-for-your-buck" upgrade might be to slip in a four speed (overdrive) automatic. (I'm not real stuck on keeping anything other than the bodywork completely original, so I have no problems with mechanical "upgrades")
Hot Heads has adapter plates that allow you to install later model Mopar or GM transmissions to the early hemi engine. I think a GM 2004R transmission would be a match made in heaven on my '55 Firedome. Acceleration would be improved by having a lower first gear, and economy at highway speeds would be quite a bit better because the engine would not be turning such high revs. I think the 291 would have plenty of torque to pull the car along at lower revs. One trade-off would be the loss of the original parking brake. I guess you would have to rely on the park pin in the trans.
I know this type of "tampering" would not be approved by some of the purists here, but I'm considering starting the project. My biggest obstacles are likely to be: 1: crossmember fitment, 2: building a new driveshaft and 3: making the shifter work with the added detents.
Steve H.
Most of what you are saying about better 0-70 MPH pick-up/ fuel milage
happened when The Chrysler Corporation went to The Three Speed Automatic
( aka The Torque-Flight ) in the 1957 Production Year.
The 1957 - 1961 Three Speed Automatic from MoPar will bolt to your
bell housing and use the same Torque Convertor.
Rodger & Gabby
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The 55 had a shift lever,the 56-61 had push buttons
You could swap an early Torqueflite into your car, but you'd still have a 1 to 1 top gear ratio so that wouldn't help your hi-way cruising.
Adapter kits are available for the GM THM 700-R4 transmission swap. You can also use these kits for many other GM transmissions. The 700-R4 has 0.7 overdrive and requires no computer. Here's the first one I spotted.
http://www.hothemiheads.com/transmissio ... _auto.html
I don't know what you'd do for a shifter. You must have an emergency brake so a rear axle swap to a MoPaR 8 3/4 should take care of that. That would also get rid of those tapered axles. The driveshaft can be made by any competent driveshaft shop with modern, cheap, and available U-Joints!
I'd stay stock and drive something else. But you can do these things and more. All it takes is skill, time, and a lot of money.
Good Luck
Steve
Steve, I guess what I have to decide is if I want a custom, or a stock car. I love driving the '55, but I just can't help thinking about how I could make it better. Changing the transmission leads to changing the rear end to the 8 3/4 with modern brakes. Then, the rear brakes will be better than the fronts! That leads to converting to disks in the front, which also means a modern master cylinder. Lots of time, lots of money! I do most all mechanical work myself and enjoy it, but if I do all the "upgrades" I may end up spending all that money and having a car thats worth less than it would have been stock.
What to do.......
Steve
BTW: Tony, I love your coupe!
Steve H.,
My opinion...you add all that modern gear to your DeSoto and pretty soon you are driving a modern car. I do that every day to and from work and running errands. When I fire up the old beast I want to relive what it was like to drive a car back in the day, even with the mushy ride, wandering steering and plan-ahead brakes. I'm a purist and definitely old fashioned, but as I said that's my view.
It's your car and you do what satisfies you!
BTW...you have totally hijacked Barbara's thread!
Mark